forum.opennms-fr.org

[Jiggie914]

OPennms has a lot of potential, but it lacks on the most basic of features.
Its built for geeks, not regular sysadmins. Why is it so hard to integrate a scanning system like "uptime" or like "solarwinds" into this very robust NMS. Nagios with plug ins does it, this is still based on command line to do or configure most of its features. Why is their site no updated often, why dont they have how to's, etc. I know they want to charge for these services, but if the regular people cant vouch for the software, how can we pitch it to our superiors...

Why is it so freaking hard to configure notifications based on traps...

Just my two cents...
PS: their irc place is also geared to geeks.. You ask a wuestion and it might be simple to them, like why is the email using root and how can i change that to something more meaningful to me. they ignore that. mind you that in older versions of the software all you had to do was change a file in java*.xml but now it does not work...

[dominique]

Bonjour Jiggie914,
Merci pour ton retour d'expérience sur OpenNMS.
En effet, l'approche d'OpenNMS est plutôt complexe au départ et le premier piège à éviter est de vouloir faire du Nagios avec OpenNMS.

Soyons clair dès le départ : si tu utilises déjà Nagios et que tu en es satisfait : garde-le, OpenNMS est un outil complémentaire qui te permettra d'améliorer significativement ta supervision.
Notre approche est la suivante : Nous utilisons la force de Nagios pour ce qu'il sait faire de mieux : le polling (test actif d'un service grâce à ses nombreux pluggins) sur des indicateurs ou par commandes systèmes.
Pour tout le reste, nous utilisons OpenNMS. Si un test actif échoue avec Nagios, nous envoyons un trap SNMP de Nagios vers OpenNMS.

Nous avons créer 2 sites, un forum et un wiki pour justement rendre OpenNMS plus facilement abordable.
Tu es le bienvenue pour nous aider à mettre à jour ces sites à chaque fois que tu te poses une question ou à chaque fois que tu comprends quelque chose sur cet outil.

A bientôt,
Dominique

[gvainfo]

An english speaking community might be of more practical use for you; there's the opennms mailinglist (opennms-discuss) in which you might find assistance.
As a general resource you have the opennms wiki (www.opennms.org) which does actually contain most of the things you express to miss - included several howtos, step-by-step explanations for certain things and so on.
The OpenNMS Group itself proposes also training in English which can bridge the gap you experience.

Best regards
Alex

[Jiggie914]

thank you guys..
Sorry i have to use google translate to read the post .

You guys are right, with OPEN NMS beign more robust, thats why i like it. I have been running it for over 2 months and its lean and fast. My environment here is a bit mixed and is why im having such a hard time. I have windows, nix, netapps ,esx servers, printers, weird brand switches (enterasys), and more, and nagios needs a plug in for each of these different types of network gear to work correclty. OPennms picked them up no problem, but thats it.

The version that you guys have seems to be tweaked a bit better than the original OpenNMS, i inherited a mess of systems and im learning how to use them as i read and tweak the features. I do like nagios, but nagios also has its flaws, just like OPennms, is command based for many of its configuration. Im learning to live with this fact.

thanks for the replys

[jeffg]

Why is their site no updated often, why dont they have how to's, etc. I know they want to charge for these services, but if the regular people cant vouch for the software, how can we pitch it to our superiors

I used to wonder these same things when I first got involved with OpenNMS. Now that I work for The OpenNMS Group, I can tell you the deep, dark secret:

The frequency and quality of updates to the wiki has nothing to do with the fact that some organizations pay us for support and consulting. The simple fact is that maintaining documentation is difficult and time-consuming. I would like nothing more than to take several weeks' holiday to create a very high-quality set of freely available documentation, because having such a resource would actually be good for business. Sadly, I have reached the age where I must have a personal life too. Perhaps you would consider helping to make the documentation better for all involved?

(Et maintenant, en français un peu atrophié)
Je pensais ces mêmes choses quand je commençais à me concerner avec OpenNMS. Maintenant que je travaille chez The OpenNMS Group, je peux te dire le secret profond et noir:

La fréquence et la qualité des mises-à-jour du wiki ne s'agit pas avec le fait que quelques organisations nous payons pour les services d'assistance technique et de consultation. Le fait simple est que maintenir les documentations est difficile et prend beaucoup de temps. Il n'existe rien qui me ferait plus plaisir que prendre quelques semaines de vacances pour créer des documentations librement disponibles et d'une très haute qualité, car l'existence de tel ressource serait actuellement bon pour nos affaires. Tristement, je suis arrivé à l'âge où je dois aussi avoir une vie hors de mon travaille. Peut-être tu considérerais nous aider à amélorier les documentations pour tous qui s'y concernant?